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    I'm not afraid to just come out and say it, joe biden (not capitalized out of extreme disrespect) is a complete asshole, career politician, fake pretend president that should have been thrown the hell out of public service years ago. This administration is a complete disgrace to our country and slap in the face to American citizens. Sorry but not sorry. 
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    @Balisong

    You don't generally initiate posts, so yes, by definition, you haven't posted any "left of center".

    Anyway, I joke your comment because I simply don't believe in this contrived meaning of "moderate"...it's simply a term made up by people who want to feel better about themselves as well as (slightly) condescending to others. Which is fine, I could care less, but in a political sense, "moderate" simply can't exist in politics or economics because where do you draw the line? I mean, if you spread all your beliefs out on a table, exactly what percentage of those beliefs would indicate that you are a moderate, and to what degree within those beliefs would you be considered a moderate? The entire concept of being a political moderate (left or right) is completely nebulous and contrived to make people feel better (and more superior) about themselves. 

    When I research and teach comparative economic systems, in the US there tends to be four groups: republican, democrat, liberal, conservative

    Even though both the left and right have twisted the definition of liberal and conservative to also cover religious (atheist) ideals, it's really not--liberal and conservative are primarily economic ideals; republican and democrat are primarily sociological ideals.

    For instance,

    Liberal = larger government economically speaking
    Democrat = favor sociological policy that create an "equal playing field" so to speak that can only be attain through federal policy
    Conservative = less government economically speaking
    Republican = favor sociological policy that embraces individualism with most policy being determined at the state level

    So, we're left with the following categories that people can fall into:

    Liberal democrat
    Republican conservative
    Conservative democrat
    Liberal republican 

    (Notice that it would be impossible to have a liberal conservative or democrat republican.)

    I believe you fall in the liberal democrat category from my limited interaction(s) with you, but please correct me if I'm wrong. I personally fall in the Republican conservative category. 

    If you want examples of the other two, I would put someone like Joe Manchin in the conservative democrat category, and someone like Tulsi Gabbard or even someone like Mitt Romney in the liberal republican camp. 

    Is there any percentage breakdown within these groups? To some extent there is; if more than 50% of your beliefs fall into these categories then you are in that category...but that's my point, there is no "moderate", it simply has no viable definition within politics or economics that's not covered by these four groups. 

    And as I always tell my students, please read the syllabus before contacting me! 🤣


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    vtgrad2003vtgrad2003 Master
    edited February 2022
    @RondyR

    In my personal opinion, the world has responded, reasonably, the way it should respond--strong sanctions that effectively shut down the Russian economy...let's hope it works. The key to this success will be if the world keeps (or appears to keep anyway) these sanctions in perpetuity. 

    Anyway, for the US, military intervention wouldn't be wise, not because of nuclear weapons, but because this is a European problem. For years Trump tried to get other European nations to contribute more to NATO and home defense, but they refused, now they're stuck with a problem that they need to fix, not us. But the marginal cost of strong sanctions is quite low. That said, the one sanction that's problematic for everyone is sanctioning their oil. You can see below that Russia is the number 2 producer in the world

    Here are the 10 countries with the most oil production:
    • United States (12108)
    • Russia (10835)
    • Saudi Arabia (9580)
    • Iraq (4620)
    • Canada (4129)
    • China (3823)
    • United Arab Emirates (3068)
    • Kuwait (2652)
    To counter that, and something our currently incompetent, impotent government is not doing, is ramping up our own production (and open Keystone back up) instead of simply relying on an increase in demand to increase output, and coordinating with other friendly nations (e.g., Sauds, UAE, Kuwait, etc) to up their's as well. This would effectively squeeze any oil Russia does have on the market, and with a sanctioning of their own oil, would castrate them economically.

    I'm also encouraged that the hacker group Anonymous has joined in this battle. Granted, they aren't the most grandmotherly nor benign group to work with, they are extortionists after all, but they have the capability and determination to wreak havoc on Russia's government, banking, and oil computer systems (just like they held our Colonial Pipeline system hostage for 2 weeks a couple of years ago). Unlike the self righteous, sometimes you have to get thugs on your side to win the playground war. 

    All in all, I think we are currently doing at least some of this, even though implemented far too late in the game. We could do much much more though (like the oil production thing).  




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    @vtgrad2003
    My college backgound was taylored to computer/business integration in the 80's prior to that I worked in photography and owned a gallery and frame shop. I studied Micro and Macro Economics along with Acounting and Tax Accounting as the applications I would encounter as a computer programer. The remainder or my classes were my true educational loves, Analytical Philosophy and Mathematics. 

    As a result I see the world as a fluid whole that functions fairly well when the extremes aren't taunting each other to irrational behavior as we are seeing today. I didn't appreciate a Reality TV star nor do I appreciate a Career Politician as President. Quite frankly the Party or person controlling the White House, Senate or House has never changed the direction of my life so when you don't really care you're firmly in the middle.
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    vtgrad2003vtgrad2003 Master
    edited February 2022
    @Balisong

    I do understand your point, but, you do care, regardless of whether you admit it or not--i.e., if you vote, you care, and I'm sure you vote (although I could be wrong); those who truly don't care, don't vote. The reason being that if you vote, you are voting for a particular economic and political philosophy, so by definition, you fall somewhere into those four categories. But again, I see where you are coming from, although I don't agree with that statement--agree to disagree as you and I often do. 
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    Here's a great piece. I particularly like this quote because it's so true. 

    https://amgreatness.com/2022/02/26/a-movement-that-must-invent-its-enemies-to-exist/

    "Since fascism does not exist [he means in it's proper context], antifascism must conjure it. We see this with the absurdly broad and hysterical discovery of hateful “isms” in a wide variety of harmless words, symbols, gestures, and practices.. Punctuality has been declared white supremacy. Black conservatives are labeled as racists and Jewish intellectuals are often called Nazis. Broadly speaking, fascism has become anything that vexes the antifascist. Even inanimate objects can be fascist now."
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    @RondyR;
    I agree with everything you said, but what are we going to do? This country is headed to Hell and we can't even slow it down. As goes America, so goes the world.
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    It's just too bad there is next to zero voting integrity. 
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    This guy is a real man! It's a shame our president isn't one.

    Zelenskyy's powerful speech moves translator to tears


    https://www.foxnews.com/world/zelenskyys-powerful-speech-moves-translator-to-tears
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    ZouaveZouave Master
    edited March 2022
    @vtgrad2003 It seems only fitting that a nation of rebels that started a fight for freedom with a handful of drunken shopkeepers and farmers, should be reminded of the cost of freedom and democracy by a guy who played the piano with his dick. That bastard truly has balls of solid steel. 
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    Last week gas prices in Slidell, LA was $3.29 a gallon. On Tuesday, the price wa $3.49. Yesterday it was $3.69. Today it is $3.79 for regular unleaded. Thanks in part to the anti-economy, anti-fossil fuel policies of the democrats.
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    @vtgrad2003 What I like is how they jump to HIS defense. 
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    @vtgrad2003
    The price at the pump is a result of newscasters informing the rational economic actors of a gold worthy opportunity. The gas you bought today was from crude contracts purchased months ago.
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    @Balisong
    Absolutely not! The gas prices today are based upon futures contracts! 
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    @vtgrad2003
    Don't you find it interesting that when prices increase it's based on futures but prices only decrease after the product is produced from lower priced delivered contracts?
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    @Balisong
    Absolutely wrong wrong wrong. Current prices fluctuate for a variety of reasons...even the cracking of diesels cause regular gas prices to rise (and vice versa), but the significant cost to gasoline is based upon the futures contracts in the oil markets. Those contracts can expire at a profit or loss depending on whether the buyer of the contract wants to actually take delivery of the product at expiration, but that is a completely separate issue from the prices at the pump regardless whether the buyer exercises the contract or not--if the futures market believes the price of oil will rise in the future, gas prices rise, if they expect it to fall in the future, gas prices fall.   
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    @vtgrad2003
    Everything you say is correct and why is qualified my statement with "Thanks in part..."
    The policies I attribute to raising gas prices is the cancellation of the pipeline and the stoppage of drilling on federal leases. 
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    BalisongBalisong Master
    edited March 2022
    @vtgrad2003
    What is the actual cost of the gallon of gas you purchased today?

    "-if the futures market believes the price of oil will rise in the future, gas prices rise, if they expect it to fall in the future, gas prices fall.   "
    You experienced an increase based on belief!
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    You forgot the depreciation of the dollar due to insane borrowing and spending, thats the only time democrats are actually not adhering to their two tier system, because they reach into everyone's pockets at the same time
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    Just had someone explain its not the government’s fault. It’s the oil futures market. 
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    Democrats are stupid puppets. I don't care what you think. They have been wrong for decades. 
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    edited March 2022
    @PappyJoe
    Ddaaammmmmnnnn😛
    Even I could probably watch that football🙂
    Crikey!
    I actually made it through the first quarter before I got bored out of my skull.  I think it’s the only full? quarter of football I’ve ever watched in my life.
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    @RockyMountainBriar
    I almost needed a cold shower after watching that. 
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    @vtgrad2003

    That's a little more than we pay but our southern neighbor, Massachusetts, is $4.00 and more!
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    vtgrad2003vtgrad2003 Master
    edited March 2022
    @Balisong

    Most differences in state prices are usually due to state fuel taxes, with the exception of CA. They have high state fuel taxes, but they also have several different local environmental ordinances which requires refineries to crack several different types of gas just for that state, which is more expensive (obviously). That said, I wonder why MA price is so high? I'm not familiar with their state laws, but their gas tax is only 24 cents a gallon which is somewhat low--e.g., ours here in NC is 36 cents. It could be that there aren't many refineries up there so there's a large transpo cost, I don't know. 
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