If that was you on the filming of this movie, you'd be in jail a few hours after the event took place. Investigator would have closed the case hours later while you rot in jail.
I still think it is possible to “slip hammer fan” fire some single actions, with a normal fixed firing pin and no transfer bar safety without pulling the trigger. It’s one of the reasons a transfer bar safety exists, along with stopping a single action from firing with a “smack” to the hammer on a loaded cylinder. The reason old style cartridge six shooters should only have five cylinders loaded with the hammer on an empty cylinder. Cap and Ball revolvers have safety notches between the cylinders so the hammer is not resting on a cap.
My North American Firearms .22 LR cal. mini revolver has safety notches between the five cylinders so that it can be carried fully loaded in a belt buckle, pocket…or in the case of the woman who smuggled one inside the “clink” inside her, umm, err, ah, “lady parts” a year or two ago. Dang, that little mini-revolver has some sharp and pointy edges😖. Mine has the “longer” 1 1/2” barrel, they make a 1 1/8” and I think they make one in .22 Short with a shorter cylinder. It would probably shave another 3/4”-7/8” off of the overall length. I have the belt buckle for it somewhere, it’s only a kind of finger/fork thing. There was a mini revolver made that actually snapped into a belt buckle that looked like a “western/cowboy” buckle. They are rare and expensive…IF…you can find one.
This is the “belt buckle” style I have for mine, but for the longer barrel. I wish I had bought the short barrel, I figured the longer barrel would be more accurate…still really really tough to shoot, and I have practiced with it. I don’t think I could feed myself if I had to get a rabbit at 10’…hell 5’. It’s definitely a “belly gun”. With CCI Stingers or CCI Mini-Mags, it will nearly jump out of your hand. I have broken/chipped my thumbnail a couple of times from the edge of the cylinder on recoil.🥲. I have since learned how to hold it to keep that from happening.
And the best one from Freedom Arms with the cool little release button. I wonder if it could be accidentally released by leaning against something🤔. It’s been probably 30 years since I have seen one in person.
Well, since I had the safe open and some of you fellows are Smith fans, I pulled these out.
.44 Mag Model 629 Classic DX 6 1/2”bbl. (wearing the factory wood combat grips).
.357 Mag Model 60 3”bbl. (I swapped out the Hogue Boot grips for the laminate finger groove grips).
.357 Mag Performance Center Pro Series Model 60 3”bbl. (I swapped out the original bulky wood grips for the sleek, composite, ivory finger groove grips).
One more reason I only buy S&W...they aren't wussies like other manufacturers...this was released yesterday to the media
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Smith & Wesson CEO Issues Strong Statement in the Face of 2nd Amendment Attacks Amid an unprecedented and unjustified attack on the firearm industry, Smith & Wesson Brands, Inc. President & CEO Mark Smith responded Monday with the following statement: “A number of politicians and their lobbying partners in the media have recently sought to disparage Smith & Wesson. Some have had the audacity to suggest that after they have vilified, undermined and defunded law enforcement for years, supported prosecutors who refuse to hold criminals accountable for their actions, overseen the decay of our country’s mental health infrastructure, and generally promoted a culture of lawlessness, Smith & Wesson and other firearm manufacturers are somehow responsible for the crime wave that has predictably resulted from these destructive policies. But they are the ones to blame for the surge in violence and lawlessness, and they seek to avoid any responsibility for the crisis of violence they have created by attempting to shift the blame to Smith & Wesson, other firearm manufacturers and law-abiding gun owners.
It is no surprise that the cities suffering most from violent crime are the very same cities that have promoted irresponsible, soft-on-crime policies that often treat criminals as victims and victims as criminals. Many of these same cities also maintain the strictest gun laws in the nation. But rather than confront the failure of their policies, certain politicians have sought more laws restricting the 2nd Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens, while simultaneously continuing to undermine our institutions of law and order. And to suppress the truth, some now seek to prohibit firearm manufacturers and supporters of the 2nd Amendment from advertising products in a manner designed to remind law-abiding citizens that they have a Constitutional right to bear arms in defense of themselves and their families.
To be clear, a Smith & Wesson firearm has never broken into a home; a Smith & Wesson firearm has never assaulted a woman out for a late-night run in the city; a Smith & Wesson firearm has never carjacked an unsuspecting driver stopped at a traffic light. Instead, Smith & Wesson provides these citizens with the means to protect themselves and their families.
We are proud of our 170-year history. We are proud of the commitment of our employees to making a quality product. We are proud to provide law-abiding citizens and law enforcement – our customers – with the tools to provide for their security and independence. We are proud of our responsible business practices.
We will continue to work alongside law enforcement, community leaders and lawmakers who are genuinely interested in creating safe neighborhoods. We will engage those who genuinely seek productive discussions, not a means of scoring political points. We will continue informing law-abiding citizens that they have a Constitutionally-protected right to defend themselves and their families. We will never back down in our defense of the 2nd Amendment.”
Smith & Wesson – EMPOWERING AMERICANS. To learn more about what we stand for: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvG96wlKoD4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS_vJue18Mw To learn more about our responsible business practices: https://www.smith-wesson.com/sites/default/files/sw_fact_sheet.pdf About Us Smith & Wesson Brands, Inc. (NASDAQ Global Select: SWBI) is a U.S.-based leader in firearm manufacturing and design, delivering a broad portfolio of quality handgun, long gun, and suppressor products to the global consumer and professional markets under the iconic Smith & Wesson®, M&P®, and Gemtech® brands. The company also provides manufacturing services including forging, machining, and precision plastic injection molding services. For more information call (844) 363-5386 or visit smith-wesson.com. Smith & Wesson 2100 Roosevelt Avenue Springfield, MA 01104 Media@smith-wesson.com
@Londy3 I do reload, including casting my own bullets. I have molds for nearly every handgun caliber I own and a few rifle calibers (old and slow). It’s been tough getting primers and powder. 6 just the cash for it all….shooting is expensive.
@Londy3 I like the .44, but it’s a handful size wise, recoil is comparatively light since it is a gas operated rotating bolt….nice. I have shot a box of .50AE in a Desert Eagle. The recoil is very manageable for me too. I think I mentioned before, it was fun, but the downrange performance wasn’t noticeably different from the hot-load .44 mag 300 gr. soft point I have loaded for bear…literally. We were shooting old school hard drives though, so terminal ballistics would be indeterminate. I’m pretty sure the .50AE would wallop soft targets more than .44 mag. In the end, I would pick my S&W 629 Classic DX over the Desert Eagle. They are both accurate, but the Smith is more comfortable to hold.
Bud's Guns has S&W Sheild Plus on sale for $399...the Sheild series are excellent guns if you were concerned about that civil war starting back up again! LOL (see other post of mine.)
I just saw this while looking at Micro 9’s. I think I need one. I like the looks of the extended mag base better than the original. I think they call it a “tactical mag”?
@vtgrad2003 Concealed Carry. They are not as heavy as they look, they have an alloy frame. I am just so use to a full size .45 1911, the little Kimber just feels right. The newer 9mm ammo is pretty “snotty” compared to the original loading. Some of the new powders can achieve much better velocity with equal or less chamber pressures.
I use to carry a Star Firestar .40 that I bought new back in the mid ‘90’s’. It was one of the first small carry automatics. It is all steel and is very narrow and compact. It is a sturdy, reliable, powerful beast, but it is “weighty”. In an iswb holster, it drug my pants down, not quite like a cholo gangbanger, but it was annoying. It has since been relegated to “glovebox duty”.
@vtgrad2003 Just for the heck of it, I looked up the (empty) weight specs for the Kimber Micro 9, S&W Shield and Shield Plus, and the Star Firestar M40.
Micro 9=15.6 oz.
single stack 6+1 or 7+1 rounds
Shield=20.8 oz. double stack 7+1 or 8+1 rounds
Shield Plus=20.2 oz. double stack 10+1 or 13+1 rounds
Firestar=31 oz. 😳 single stack 6+1 rounds It’s a heavy little piggy, but it does have a little more “snort” with the .40 cal. The weight helps tame the recoil (not that it’s a big deal for me), but I will admit, when I first shot it, I was pushing the muzzle down anticipating the recoil. I couldn’t hit a dang thing which is not the norm for me. It took me a few rounds to correct it. It’s a super comfortable pistol to handle, it fits my hand well.
I personally prefer the smaller width of a single stack pistol.
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I had not seen that, thanks.
I still think it is possible to “slip hammer fan” fire some single actions, with a normal fixed firing pin and no transfer bar safety without pulling the trigger. It’s one of the reasons a transfer bar safety exists, along with stopping a single action from firing with a “smack” to the hammer on a loaded cylinder. The reason old style cartridge six shooters should only have five cylinders loaded with the hammer on an empty cylinder. Cap and Ball revolvers have safety notches between the cylinders so the hammer is not resting on a cap.
My North American Firearms .22 LR cal. mini revolver has safety notches between the five cylinders so that it can be carried fully loaded in a belt buckle, pocket…or in the case of the woman who smuggled one inside the “clink” inside her, umm, err, ah, “lady parts” a year or two ago. Dang, that little mini-revolver has some sharp and pointy edges😖. Mine has the “longer” 1 1/2” barrel, they make a 1 1/8” and I think they make one in .22 Short with a shorter cylinder. It would probably shave another 3/4”-7/8” off of the overall length. I have the belt buckle for it somewhere, it’s only a kind of finger/fork thing. There was a mini revolver made that actually snapped into a belt buckle that looked like a “western/cowboy” buckle. They are rare and expensive…IF…you can find one.
.44 Mag Model 629 Classic DX 6 1/2”bbl. (wearing the factory wood combat grips).
.357 Mag Model 60 3”bbl. (I swapped out the Hogue Boot grips for the laminate finger groove grips).
.357 Mag Performance Center Pro Series Model 60 3”bbl. (I swapped out the original bulky wood grips for the sleek, composite, ivory finger groove grips).
Magnum Research/Israel Military Industries .44 Mag Desert Eagle Mark VII.
Very nice that you opened the safe. Love your weapons.
Amid an unprecedented and unjustified attack on the firearm industry, Smith & Wesson Brands, Inc. President & CEO Mark Smith responded Monday with the following statement:
“A number of politicians and their lobbying partners in the media have recently sought to disparage Smith & Wesson. Some have had the audacity to suggest that after they have vilified, undermined and defunded law enforcement for years, supported prosecutors who refuse to hold criminals accountable for their actions, overseen the decay of our country’s mental health infrastructure, and generally promoted a culture of lawlessness, Smith & Wesson and other firearm manufacturers are somehow responsible for the crime wave that has predictably resulted from these destructive policies. But they are the ones to blame for the surge in violence and lawlessness, and they seek to avoid any responsibility for the crisis of violence they have created by attempting to shift the blame to Smith & Wesson, other firearm manufacturers and law-abiding gun owners.
To learn more about what we stand for:
To learn more about our responsible business practices:
https://www.smith-wesson.com/sites/default/files/sw_fact_sheet.pdf About Us Smith & Wesson Brands, Inc. (NASDAQ Global Select: SWBI) is a U.S.-based leader in firearm manufacturing and design, delivering a broad portfolio of quality handgun, long gun, and suppressor products to the global consumer and professional markets under the iconic Smith & Wesson®, M&P®, and Gemtech® brands. The company also provides manufacturing services including forging, machining, and precision plastic injection molding services. For more information call (844) 363-5386 or visit smith-wesson.com. Smith & Wesson 2100 Roosevelt Avenue Springfield, MA 01104 Media@smith-wesson.com
Great statement! I too am a proud owner of these fine tools!
Some jerk shot up nearly all of your ammo😬
I have thousands more..lol
Don't you reload your own?
What do you think of the desert eagle?
Have you ever shot it in .50?
I do reload, including casting my own bullets. I have molds for nearly every handgun caliber I own and a few rifle calibers (old and slow). It’s been tough getting primers and powder. 6 just the cash for it all….shooting is expensive.
I like the .44, but it’s a handful size wise, recoil is comparatively light since it is a gas operated rotating bolt….nice. I have shot a box of .50AE in a Desert Eagle. The recoil is very manageable for me too. I think I mentioned before, it was fun, but the downrange performance wasn’t noticeably different from the hot-load .44 mag 300 gr. soft point I have loaded for bear…literally. We were shooting old school hard drives though, so terminal ballistics would be indeterminate. I’m pretty sure the .50AE would wallop soft targets more than .44 mag.
In the end, I would pick my S&W 629 Classic DX over the Desert Eagle. They are both accurate, but the Smith is more comfortable to hold.
That is cool! I also think you should get the desert night. Looks like it was made for you
Concealed Carry. They are not as heavy as they look, they have an alloy frame. I am just so use to a full size .45 1911, the little Kimber just feels right. The newer 9mm ammo is pretty “snotty” compared to the original loading. Some of the new powders can achieve much better velocity with equal or less chamber pressures.
I use to carry a Star Firestar .40 that I bought new back in the mid ‘90’s’. It was one of the first small carry automatics. It is all steel and is very narrow and compact. It is a sturdy, reliable, powerful beast, but it is “weighty”. In an iswb holster, it drug my pants down, not quite like a cholo gangbanger, but it was annoying. It has since been relegated to “glovebox duty”.
Just for the heck of it, I looked up the (empty) weight specs for the Kimber Micro 9, S&W Shield and Shield Plus, and the Star Firestar M40.
Micro 9=15.6 oz.
Shield=20.8 oz.
double stack 7+1 or 8+1 rounds
Shield Plus=20.2 oz.
double stack 10+1 or 13+1 rounds
Firestar=31 oz. 😳
single stack 6+1 rounds
It’s a heavy little piggy, but it does have a little more “snort” with the .40 cal. The weight helps tame the recoil (not that it’s a big deal for me), but I will admit, when I first shot it, I was pushing the muzzle down anticipating the recoil. I couldn’t hit a dang thing which is not the norm for me. It took me a few rounds to correct it. It’s a super comfortable pistol to handle, it fits my hand well.
I personally prefer the smaller width of a single stack pistol.
I need one as well.