Lord Of The Rings and Pipe Tobacco

thesubcon

For any that streamed (or will later listen to) the @countrysquireradio podcast from 8/15/2016, here is the complete list of funny and goofy tobacco's my kids and I have come up with. What do you think? Feel free to add to it and chuckle along

(from me, and both my boys)

Sourmon - Lemons

[Saruman]

Froyo  Baggins - Chocolate
Vanilla swirl

[Frodo Baggins]

Frodough  Baggins - Cookies

[Frodo Baggins]

Bakecorn - Bacon

[Beorn]

Earacorn - Buttered Popcorn

[Aragorn]

Tree Bread - Bread

[Tree Beard]

Sampie Gamgee - Berry Pie

[Samwise Gamgee]

The old Gaffer - A Strong Beer (IPA or Imperial)

[Same as above]

The Ring  Wreaths - Christmas
Tree/Evergreen

[The Ringwraiths]

Merry and Pippincorn - Black Peppercorn

[Merry and Pippin]

Mintas Tirith - Mint

[Minas Tirith]

Mintas Morgul - Mint Chocolate

[Minas Morgul]

Urukale - Kale

[Uruk Hai]

Shecob - Peach Cobbler

[Shelob]

Elrind     - Melons

[Elrond]

Trashgul - Everything

[Nazgul]

Randomgass - Eggs

[Radagast]

thesubcon

Boaromir - Bacon

[Boromir]

Gollum - Sushi / Sriracha-mayo

[Same as above]

Glazedrial - Donuts

[Galadriel]

Greenum   Wormtongue - Greenapple

[Grima Wormtongue]

Arawiener - Bratwurst

[Arawin]

Gimchi - Kim-chi

[Gimli]

Smagels  - Bagels

[Sm`eagol]

Tricksy - mystery flavor

[Same as above]

Thornin - roses

[Thorin]

Fili and Kilover - 50% perique

[Fili and Kili]

Marionberry  Brandychunk - Marionberry,
Brandy(or liquor), Chunks of navy flake

[Meriadoc Brandybuck]

Tombombadill - pickle

[Tom Bombadil]

thesubcon

(From my younger boy and daughter)

Frodo Baguettes - Baguettes

[Frodo Baggins]

The Ringcakes - Cakes

[The Ringwraiths]

The Prancing Coney - Ice cream cone

[The Prancing Pony]

Boredamear - French  food (:

[Boromir]

Elfish - Salmon

[Elvish]

Legosteak - Steak

[Legolas]

King of the Pezd - Pez

[King of the Dead]

Lord of the Cheese - Parmesan

[Lord of the Rings]

Mt.  Doom - Chocolate fudge   

 

http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_characters

PappyJoe

You guys had too much time on your hands. Some of them already exists under different names. Some I wouldn't use for compost.

Bakecorn - Bacon (Briarworks Bacon Old Fashioned)

Sampie Gamgee - Berry Pie (Drew Estate's Grand Central)

The old Gaffer - A Strong Beer (PA or Imperial (Orlik Golden Flake)

The Ring  Wreaths - Christmas Tree/Evergreen   (Any of the McClelland Christmas Cheer)

Merry and Pippincorn - Black Peppercorn (Acadian Perique)

Shecob - Peach Cobbler (Briarworks Peach Cobbler)

Elrind     - Melons (McClellands Honeydew 221 B series)

Glazedrial - (Molto Dolce)

Gimchi - would be one with a fermented tobacco

Legosteak - (Meatpie)

Mt Doom - (Bob Chocolate Flake)

Boredamaer -(McClelland Maple Supreme)

Thornin - (anything that's a heavy Lakeland blend)

motie2

And at the following URL you can find Gandalf pipes, but not Gandalf's pipe!!!!

https://pipesbydesign.wordpress.com/2011/06/04/gandalf/

judandhispipe

A churchwarden like the one that is shown with Gandalf in these pics would be very inconvenient for a wandering wizard. He smoked a short pipe in the novels.

PappyJoe

@judandhispipe - Saw a website once that had  a wizard's staff and it had a churchwarden that slid into the top of the staff stem down. If I can find it I'll post the website link.

Gordon

J R R Tolkien on Beer and Pipe Smoking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWBiO9M7_Eo

Eddie Izzard: Lord of the Rings and Pipes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6n6yvZjVsQ

Pipes in Middle Earth http://www.alpascia.com/moments/d/Pipes-in-Middle-Earth-i24603.html
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motie2

Gandalf in a LOTR smoking scene 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P1wb1Dpyjc

mfresa

@motie2 - thank you, those are excellent scenes.

motie2

https://briarfiles.blogspot.com/2009/10/featured-pipe-smoker-fictional-gandalf.html

The Briar Files

A blog about pipes and pipe smoking.

SATURDAY, OCTOBER 10, 2009

Featured Pipe Smoker (Fictional): Gandalf

"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends."

Gandalf, a.k.a. Mithrandir, The Grey Wanderer, Olórin, Tharkûn, and many other names. Another character whom it would be pointless for me to say much about; anything I could say you probably already know.

Gandalf picked up pipe-smoking from the hobbits of the Shire, and enjoyed the past-time immensely when he had enough time to relax with a pipe. He was an expert at blowing smoke-rings, able to command them to float about the room and even change color. Whether this was due to his Wizardly powers, or perhaps a power he gained as a side-effect of wearing Narya, the Ring of Fire, is unknown.

At last Gandalf pushed away his plate and jug--he had eaten two whole loaves (with masses of butter and honey and clotted cream) and drunk at least a quart of mead--and he took out his pipe. "I will answer the second question first," he said, "--but bless me! this is a splendid place for smoke rings!" Indeed for a long time they could get nothing more out of him, he was so busy sending smoke-rings dodging round the pillars of the hall, changing them into all sorts of different shapes and colours, and setting them at last chasing one another out of the hole in the roof. They must have looked very queer from outside, popping out into the air one after another, green, blue, red, silver-grey, yellow, white; big ones, little ones; little ones dodging through big ones and joining into figure-eights, and going off like a flock of birds into the distance.    --excerpt from The Hobbit

In picture 1, below, we see him from a detail of An Unexpected Party by the Brothers Hildebrandt, smoking a fairly large but conventional pipe with an apple or perhaps acorn bowl and a slightly bent stem; the kind of pipe that could be stored safely and retrieved easily--ideal for a wandering Wizard who might have to pick up and leave at a moment's notice. Bilbo's pipe, on the other hand, is obviously a "house pipe," not meant to be used while traveling, which is a reasonable pipe for Bilbo since Hobbits generally didn't like to travel too much. Elegant, perhaps, at first glance, but try to imagine how it would look if he actually had the bit in his mouth. Without a bend in the end of the stem this pipe would be extremely difficult to smoke and probably impossible to light in the first place. The Hildebrandts did an excellent job with this piece of art; however, I don't think they gave much serious thought to the mechanics of pipe smoking.

In picture 2, below: This is one of my favorite scenes from any of the four books, and is filled with activity and things I enjoy: good company, a roaring fire, pipe smoking and music. Here we may also see some dwarfish pipe smoking. Thorin (if I'm not mistaken) on the left, managing to play his harp and smoke a pipe at the same time. On the right we have Balin (or possibly Dwalin), according to my sources, who is smoking his pipe while (incredibly!) simultaneously playing the cello or bass viol.

For other LotR-related pipe smokers, see Bilbo Baggins, Gimli, son of Gloín, and J.R.R. Tolkien. 

Picture 1

Picture 2

motie2

@judandhispipe -- You wrote: <<He smoked a short pipe in the novels. >>

You are correct, sir!!!! <<In picture 1 .... we see him from a detail of An Unexpected Party by the Brothers Hildebrandt, smoking a fairly large but conventional pipe with an apple or perhaps acorn bowl and a slightly bent stem; the kind of pipe that could be stored safely and retrieved easily--ideal for a wandering Wizard who might have to pick up and leave at a moment's notice. >>

judandhispipe

@motie2
"Bilbo's pipe, on the other hand, is
obviously a "house pipe," not meant to be used while traveling, which is
a reasonable pipe for Bilbo since Hobbits generally didn't like to
travel too much. Elegant, perhaps, at first glance, but try to imagine
how it would look if he actually had the bit in his mouth. Without a
bend in the end of the stem this pipe would be extremely difficult to
smoke and probably impossible to light in the first place."

Maybe this is like the old tavern pipes; as I understand it, these were very long stem clays,provided by the establishment, that would be lit by a servant. The end was broken off  after use,for the next guest.

motie2

[rimshot]

rustedrailpipes

wow.. that was bad

motie2

Bad? It was awful!

But there's so little new LOTR stuff, and, IMHO, "The Hobbit" flix took all the fun out of it. Quel (not Quelle) dommage! 

mfresa

@motie2 don't bash The Hobbit too bad it was that film that inspired me to put down the cigar and start piping

mfresa

Maybe that is one of the reasons churchwardens appeal to me...who knows?

motie2

It's usually Gandalf that's shown smoking, but see Aragorn/Strider, above

 

motie2

Oh, and.....

motie2

Just found this article on Gandalf's pipe: 
https://www.reddit.com/r/tolkienfans/comments/5o74e9/have_questions_about_gandalf_lotr_lore_xpost_from/

judandhispipe

If I am not mistaken,in the novels, pretty much everyone in the Shire, and folk associated with them, smoked. Don't remember about elves - did Legolas smoke?

PappyJoe

Pipe smokers should realize that all the "Lord of the Rings" pipe tobacco on the market today are as fictional as the books.  That pipe smoking was included in the book is no surprise because Tolkien was a pipe smoker. By most accounts he smoked Capstan Blue - a Navy Flake Straight Virginia. If he was alive and asked today what the Hobbits and other denizens of Middle Earth smoked, he would probably say straight, unadulterated pure leaf tobacco.

motie2

@PappyJoe --  I hope you are right.... again.

The poor Shire folks should not have to smoke this stuff:

https://www.flogglewerks.com/hobbit-5-herbal-blends/ready-to-ship/

mfresa

@motie2, God knows what is in that stuff!!

motie2

I'm not sure He does.......

motie2

"Even If They Come From Lothlórien" pipe tobacco at C&D (2014)
https://smokingjacketmagazine.com/2014/05/25/even-if-they-come-from-lothlorien-cornell-diehl-berries-cream-in-a-mcqueen-wizard-churchwarden/

mfresa

Conversation with Tolkein scholar about tobacco:
http://youtu.be/AAuGlOz_yCM

PappyJoe

@mfresa - thanks for an interesting link. To bad it doesn't really tell us anything new. While she mentions that he may have smoked a Navy Flake and that tins were found in his house, she doesn't mention what brand of Navy Flake. The following link suggests it was Capstan. http://christianpipesmokers.net/viewtopic.php?t=12835

Another link suggest it was Capstan, Player Navy Flake and Three Nuns.. http://lotrplaza.com/showthread.php?17658-What-was-Tolkien's-favorite-Pipe-tobacco
So basically, no one is apparently alive who knows the answer and what we do know is based on what tins have been found in his home.

mfresa

@PappyJoe, yes, I think that is the best information we can come by at the moment.

PappyJoe

A couple of years ago, I pulled out all four books and would sit under the tree and read them while smoking Capstan Blue.