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I am in the process of looking for a new pipe to add to my collection.  I've seen such a wide range of prices from pocket change to unaffordable.  What justifies a pipe's pricing at $200.00+?  Craftsmanship?  Materials?  Rarity?  Name brand?

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  • PhilipPhilip Enthusiast
    Pipe pricing is like everything else, you get what you pay for and what the market can demand. If you're shrewd you can find quite a bargain. All those things you mentioned plus a zillion more go into the price of something. People who choose not to buy a pipe effects the price.

    Anyway, take a look at this baby. $85,000! Must be worth it to someone, although I can't imagine who. Everything else by comparison will seem cheap.




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  • @serntil Actually all of the above. But don't let yourself get all caught up in the issues you just set forth. Material is important in that wooden pipes made of briar are by far better than most other wood because of the property of briar makes it the best suited for taking the heat and absorbing the moisture. Pipes made of Morta Wood are also highly prized as good smokers and highly collectible. And as for beauty and craftsmanship a Meerschaum can fit the bill. But if you place the importance of your purchase solely on craftsmanship, rarity, or name brand over how the actual look and feel of the pipe appeals to you on a personal level, you're in danger of succumbing to the same pitfalls as those TV Celebrity 'Fashion Plates' who parade around like peacocks touting the name brand of the fashions to whom ever is willing to listen. Get the pipe that catches your eye and one you can comfortably afford. Set a maximum price you're willing to pay no matter whose name is engraved on the pipe. There are pipes on EBAY with the ridiculous price of $7600.00 to $12,000 or more created by some World Famous Artisan Pipemaker. The real problem is should you pay $7600.00 for a pipe to impress your friends 98 % of them probably don't smoke a pipe and would rather complain about your second hand smoke blowing in their direction. And of the 2% who do smoke a pipe, most have no idea who that World Famous Artisan Pipemaker because we don't live in that World. So you're stuck with an expensive pipe more of a museum piece than something you'd dare smoke for fear of devaluating your investment. I have beautiful name band pipes that gurgle every time I smoke them (but make me look damn good smoking them) ... and I have cheap basket pipes that do nothing to improve my appearance but provide me with a damn fine smoke. Unless you're buying pipes solely as an investment ... then simply buy what strikes your fancy. 

    And as for your question as to what justifies a pipe's pricing at $200.00+  ... consider the time it takes to make a quality handmade pipe. And then consider how much money you make an hour. How much money is your time worth? A quality pipe maker feels the same way and charges accordingly. That's a major factor to take into consideration when purchasing a quality handmade pipe. Then there is the option of buying a decent smoking Dr. Grabow churned out in a factory.           

  • motie2motie2 Master
    Let's aim a little lower: Purisme's Carbon Fiber Pipe Can Be Yours For Only $2700.00

    Purisme Pipe copy
  • SERENTILSERENTIL Newcomer

    Great info... and, as usual a great sense of humor.  That's why I love you guys! 

    I've got my eye on a Savinelli Alligator Red 602.  I loved the way it looked and how it felt in my hand.  I feel good about the price and the reputation of the maker. 

  • PhilipPhilip Enthusiast
    Now that's a pipe to have in any collection. I love the finish on that. I stick close to billiards but I think the bend works well with this pipe. If you do get it, let us know what you think. 
  • CharlesCharles Master
    @motie2 - Way too much money!  I can get the same pipe for $2699.00 lol.
  • dbh1950dbh1950 Newcomer
    Serentil, interesting topic. A pipe to me is a receptacle for holding tobacco while the tobacco is alight. Beats holding hot tobacco embers in your hand, I guess. 
    Seriously, much like many things, pipes can be crafted in a fashion and from certain materials that make them objects of art or artistic expressions. As with many things, they can be objects of obsession or fetishes. 
    Burl or straight grain? In my case, how much tobacco will a pipe hold and will it be a clencher. 
  • SERENTILSERENTIL Newcomer
    As with many others, my first pipe was a Grabow.  I still use it.  I have a nice Luca Vanetti that I just love but I need to add a cob in there and a probably that Savinelli Alligator Red pipe.  The Grabow has had so many different tobaccos in it that it gives off a sour taste.  Needs a good cleaning.
  • SERENTILSERENTIL Newcomer
    @dbh1950, I've have/had the same perception but when I read tobacco blend reviews I often see where certain blends are 'better' in certain pipes.  I'd wager that has more to do with the pipe shape than the pipe maker but, I'm still relatively new to this hobby.  Considering my budget for pipes, accessories and blends, I can justify spending just under $200 on a nice pipe.  Speaking for myself only, I couldn't justify spending any more than that no matter how purty or unique a pipe is. 
  • motie2motie2 Master
    For cob lovers, E.A. Carey is currently having a big sale on Missouri Meerschaums.
  • @motie2 How are you holding up on your Carey pipe filters? I know you have several Carey Magic Inch pipes and I have an abundance of filters if you need some. I only have one pipe and bought a tube full of filters. Must be 100 in the tube.
  • I have some Grabows and Medicos in my collection, Also Petersons and GBD's and lots of others. They all smoke well except for some pipes that are conversation pieces.
  • motie2motie2 Master
    @ghostsofpompeii -- When I took up the pipe again, and bought two more Carey's, I purchased 250 "Carey Magic Inch Papyrate Filters," but thank you so much for your generous offer. With me smoking only a bowl a day, that supply should last me for at least a little while. 

    If you really want to offload them (and I may be one of very few Carey devotees on TPL) I'd be thrilled to send you my snail mail address by DM, and I would cover any of your shipping/postage costs.

    I've also decided to change my offer: I'd pay $20.00 for two ounces of your Mrs. Hudson's 221B Bakery blend. Making it myself would be a bother, and about as costly, and leave me with leftover individual ingredients -- good in and of themselves, but your blend is greater than the sum of its parts.
  • @motie2 I've made only one batch of Mrs. Hudson's 221B Bakery Blend ... before I'd even think of offering it to anyone I'd want to make sure I could replicate the blend exactly. And since I'm more of a mad scientist as opposed to a blender I thought the best solution was to supply members with my recipe so they could try their hand at it. I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to guarantee any quality control consistency. I've had a lot of hit and miss combinations - and Mrs. Hudson's 221B bakery Blend seemed to be the only one I really that jumped out and screamed SUCCESS. But hopefully that wasn't a one-time magic in a bottle type deal I won't be able to replicate. And if that's the case I'll be one sad puppy once that Quart jar is empty.   
  • motie2motie2 Master
    G.L. Pease is an authoritative source in the world of pipes and tobacco, and I thought y'all might be interested in the essay posted at http://glpease.com/Articles/Price.html
  • xDutchxxDutchx Master

    Thanks for posting that link motie. I am always interested in anything Mr. Pease would enjoy elaborating on.

    Personally, I think that a pipe collector has the best chance, at acquiring the best pipes, regardless the quality or price point. This is simply because the collector will have the ability to smoke a significant number of pipes, and choose to sell or keep the best pipes he has had access to.

    It would be nice to think that the best smokers are always obtained by targeting a particular price point and above, but the reality is, that a pipe needs to be smoked, before it can be evaluated. The reality is that the true quality of briar cannot be evaluated by the pipe carver, but instead can only be truly evaluated by the pipe smoker. The carver can only make his best effort, with the quality of briar he has been lucky enough to work with.

    This is the best reason I can think of, for a pipe smoker to justify growing their collection, beyond a reasonable number of pipes. Never should a pipe smoker feel the need to justify a purchase because they "need" another pipe. The purchase should always be justified, based on the fact that they "want" another pipe.

    A wise man once said, "Talk long, talk wrong!"

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