State taxes

Woodsman

Some states are jumping the gun on taxes and once one group of "Slavering Weasels" does something to screw the public. they'll all jump on the Bloodsucker Train.(You think I might be a tad upset about things?) My friend in PA now has  to pay an extra $8.80 per pound plus sales tax. A friend in New York got an order from a friend in the EU marked tobacco and NY State/City taxes of $60.00 on it before it could be delivered. Washington State bans any tobacco shipment from outside the state so they can bleed their citizens. (I wonder if they ban any import of Wonder Wacky Weed being that  they allow the use of it?)

What are your states pulling taxwise?

judandhispipe

"Sin taxes" are always popular.

piperdave

@woodsman Funny you mention the wacky weed my brother and I were talking about that the other day since the election and those states who voted to legalize recreational use and wondering what amount of tax that is going to have? It really is a shame the way our freedoms are slowly being taken away in the name of "public health concern" I guess the majority might take notice when it effects something they enjoy or a hobby they may have. Unfortunately it may be too late. Like @judandhispipe says the "sin taxes" seem to always be popular and probably the easiest to get passed. Don't worry the state will take care of you HA!

daveinlax

IMO because most pipe tobacco sold is relabeled RYO cigarette tobacco to avoid the higher RYO tobacco taxes I'm surprised that pipe tobacco is not at tax parity with traditional cigarettes yet. I'm also surprised that mail order across state lines is still allowed.
Taxes will be going up and mail order may go away but I'd be more worried about your employer and their health care provider and your wife taking away your freedom to smoke before I'd be worried about being taxed to quit.

Woodsman

Well, I've seen people let go from a job due to higher insurance rates for smokers, and some employers wont hire smokers for the same reason. I guess I'm lucky that I'm  retired. The anti-smoking ads are starting to take on Hookah smoking saying that an hour smoking a Hookah is the equivalent of 10 cigarettes.

All these States and Nations that draw high revenues from tobacco, have they figured where to get the money when it stops?

Oh well. Happy Thanksgiving, we haven't been outlawed yet.

PappyJoe

That's the problem @woodsman, they either make assumptions based on what they dream will happen or they adopt the old "we'll find something else to tax" belief. Reality is they never think that far ahead to even consider what adverse effects may occur.

jh92084ca

CA just legalized weed and cigarette (tobacco) taxes was increased 2 dollars a pack.  I have never seen such idiots in this state that vote for every proposition tax increase that is put on the ballot.  Tobacco bad in CA, weed good.  What a blanked up state.  Isn't most weed smoked?  I did not see the CA Lung Association speaking against it.  I also just saw a weed billboard in my town.  Can't advertise cigarettes, too influential on our kids but can display a Mary Jane leaf on a billboard.

Topaz75

Connecticut is another one of those states that has absolutely no idea how to handle money. Years ago we seemed to get along just fine and we didn't even have a sales tax.

Now the state has revenue from income taxes, casinos, lotteries, a sales tax, and absurdly high tobacco and gasoline taxes. Despite this windfall, the government is constantly cutting programs and services while obnoxiously whining about how broke they are.

PappyJoe

@topaz75 - I have a theory. Place money in front of politicians, they will spend it in ways that will usually benefit their friends and supporters. Whenever they have a windfall, they spend the money as if they will continue to have that amount of money every year and when it doesn't happen, they whine about needing more money and start cutting programs to fill the gaps.

Anthony

Crook county Illinois, oops sorry that's Cook county. You know the state with the most Governor's in prison, they have added 18% to everything Tabaco, but there leaving mail order alone. lets keep that part quite.   

PappyJoe

@anthony - are you talking Governor's currently in jail? Otherwise you may be talking about Louisiana.

Anthony

LOL Pappy Joe, I do forget that Louisiana has tried to give Chicago a run for it's money in the area of corruption. I believe we have had 5 Governor's go to jail so far, but remember we tobacco  users are bad and need to be punished.  I do have fond memories of bringing groups down to New Orleans to help rebuild after Katrina. We would put new stuff into house's one day and find it stolen the next, some of my volunteers would freak,  me being from Chicago made me feel like life was more normal. LOL

Woodsman

LOL

It's great that we can laugh at things like this, all public projects in NJ is subject to a "Mob" tax.

PappyJoe

@anthony, I live 30 miles east of New Orleans. I was among the lucky ones mainly because my house sits on a small ridge and the flood water only got up to the sidewalk. That and I had just had a new roof put on the year before. I lost a total of 12 shingles. Yeah, there are parts of New Orleans where the criminals and thugs had a field day - and still do.  Some homebuilders have taken to hiring armed guards to sit on property that's under construction.

I don't go into New Orleans itself but maybe once or twice a year anymore.