Prince Albert
papafontana52
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I grew up loving the smell of my uncle's pipe tobacco. Even when he wasn't smoking his house smelled of pipe tobacco. He smoked Prince Albert and back then
it left a nice aroma in the house. Now when I smoke it, it leaves a cigarette odor in the house. I love the taste of it and the room note when it is being smoked, but that stale cigarette smell later is horrible.
I've spoken to some tobacconists about it and they tell me the quality of the tobacco has gone down; Prince Albert is not the same as it once was. A lesser quality tobacco will cause that delayed cigarette smell.
Does anyone make a good "Prince Albert" replacement? I've tried Prince Andrew but it doesn't capture the Prince Albert flavor and aroma.
it left a nice aroma in the house. Now when I smoke it, it leaves a cigarette odor in the house. I love the taste of it and the room note when it is being smoked, but that stale cigarette smell later is horrible.
I've spoken to some tobacconists about it and they tell me the quality of the tobacco has gone down; Prince Albert is not the same as it once was. A lesser quality tobacco will cause that delayed cigarette smell.
Does anyone make a good "Prince Albert" replacement? I've tried Prince Andrew but it doesn't capture the Prince Albert flavor and aroma.
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It's been a common problem for decades with most blends that have been manufactured for a length of time. The reality to it is, tobacco is a natural product, and once the manufacturer runs out of one of the original tobaccos in the blend, they are technically no longer able to produce the original. Instead of ending the era of the blend, and discontinuing the name, they blend a different tobacco, and call it the same thing. They are simply sticking with name recognition of the blend, because in marketing, name recognition is worth a lot of money.
Two tobaccos that come to mind that have been marketed this way over the years, are Three Nuns and Escudo. While they may be in the same genre blend wise, they are absolutely not the original blend. This is why you see a blender like Greg Pease, who has very high standards for his pipe tobacco, discontinue a blend. It wasn't because the blend didn't sell, it was because he cannot get the tobacco he needs anymore to produce the original mixture.
Some manufacturers, instead of discontinuing a blend, have noted a different crop year, because some pipe smokers have a very refined palate and can tell the difference, even though the tobaccos are very close.
In reality, if a manufacturer cannot produce the original blend or note a different crop year,, they should probably just discontinue the blend all together. When they cannot get quality tobaccos to produce their entire line, they should probably just forget it and close their doors all together.
Sadly, it's the reason that Mike and Mary McNiel have recently closed their doors, due to policy and regulatory changes implemented by the Feds. If they cannot outlaw pipe and cigar smoking, they plan to make us smoke lower and lower quality tobaccos, until we simply lose interest.
Since the pipe smoker doesn't smoke for a nicotine fix, but rather for the flavor of quality tobacco and the relaxation it provides, the Feds probably figure that it shouldn't take too many more years of this for us to lose interest all together.
I also think our taste and smell receptors change as time goes on. I know I notice many things in my life that either do not smell or do not taste as I remember them previously. Also aroma and taste are subjective and unlike a number or a letter we really have to rely on our memory to recall the taste or aroma. More often, I might simply recall I liked something that either tasted and / or smelled, but it would be difficult to explain other than in @papafontana52
Just my opinion......
@Londy3, I totally agree 100%. I suppose that we already have one with the CRA, but they aren't involved in the protection of pipe tobacco to my knowledge.
Traditional brick and mortar tobacconists are a unique entity, that cater exclusively to the pipe and cigar community and are an American tradition. Pipe and cigar related products are all they sell, and to this day you will never see any minors walking in, trying to purchase an $8 cigar or a $100 pipe. There is absolutely no legitimate medical argument, on why the pipe and cigar industry should be legislated out of existence. Moderate pipe and cigar smoking simply doesn't abuse the body to that extent. If you take an entire bottle of aspirin, sure it will kill you, but if you take 2, they will get rid of a headache.
@Londy3, not sure if you have heard of the COSA, but they are a grass roots organization with the goal of limiting the reach of the Federal Government. We need to draft a letter to them, about getting the supply of quality tobaccos, back in the McNeil warehouses.
https://conventionofstates.com/latest
Still, Prince Albert and Carter Hall for that matter, are great tobaccos to break in new pipes and build cake as well as an all around pleasant all day relaxing smoke. Both PA and CH at one time were advertised as tobacco for both pipes and cigarettes as well as Velvet, Sir Walter Raleigh, and Union Leader, to name a few. That is just my opinion.
Here are some old tins that advertised tobacco for both pipe and cigarettes:
I never had Half and Half, or Lane Ready Rubbed but wanted to try them. Suggestions?
If you don't like the FDA getting involved in smoking matters, you need to get the Tobacco Control Act of 2009 modified, since that is the authorizing legislation. Since the bill passed both Houses of Congress overwhelmingly, with substantial bipartisan majorities, I don't think you are going to get very far. (The original bill passed the House by a vote of 298-112. The Senate passed a modified version 79-17. That version passed the House with a vote of 307-97.)