Sir Winston in 1947

buflosab

Just read that a half smoked cigar left by Winston Churchill in a Paris airport in 1947 was sold at auction for $12,000 dollars. Bizarre.

Londy3

LMAO

KA9FFJ

@buflosab @Londy3 What will be even more bizarre, is if the purchaser tries to smoke the nasty thing!...

Charles

Raises some interesting questions like;  How was the cigar authenticated as belonging to Churchill?  And, why would it be worth so much?

Why would somebody in 1947, choose to pick a cigar out of an ash can and save it during that era?  Churchill tended to chew on cigars, puffing the smoke out rather than inhaling, often discarding them half-smoked.  They must have been nasty looking when he discarded them.  (I had a neighbor, who has long passed now, who smoked and chewed on his cigars as well.  He inhaled them, as opposed to blowing smoke out of them, and tended to smoke them down.  What was tossed was the most nastiest thing I had ever saw at the time.)

In the war torn Paris of 1947, ebay did not exist nor did any similar websites so there were no markets for those types of souvenirs. Would be interested to see what a 70-y/o half smoked, chewed up cigar looks like after surviving for so long. 

Seems suspicious to me.  Just saying.

buflosab

Yes it would be bizarre, Iwas thinking about it and this dude got him one hell of a historical artifact.

buflosab

Londy3

Could be a bunch of BS. Unless they get a DNA test on it. But sheesh, it's a freaking used cigar. Yuck

buflosab

This is the picture of the auctioned off cigar from some Boston auction house.Nothing to do with Ebay.

buflosab

You may be right,I will try to get the article posted and anyone interested can judge for themselves.

Charles

Also not sure that Winston Churchill had cigars mad with his name on them in 1947.  It is true that he loved Cuban cigars and consumed a lot of them.  Although many of the cigars Churchill smoked were specially made just for him and weren’t the part of any brand, he did occasionally puff on the commercial stuff. His favorites were Cuban Romeo y Julietas and Camachos. His other well-known vices were Johnny Walker Red scotch and vintage Hine brandy.

Charles

https://nypost.com/2017/10/12/half-smoked-winston-churchill-cigar-sells-for-12k/  Here is the article published in the New York Post.  For a man that chewed up cigars, that cigar looks more like it was smoked then chewed.  Not buying the label either.  I think the buyer was duped. 

buflosab

Thanks for the post, I read the article on War History online,So I don't know,as you said this person may have been duped and a expensive dupe at that.It was something to talk about right?

Charles

Yes, definitely something to talk about.  I have some photos of Sir Winston in books that date back to that era.  I will search my library for the photos to see if any show a clear view of his cigar labels.  If I can find something clear, I will post it for everyone to view.  

buflosab

That would be great,Never been to an auction so I'm wondering what the criteria is as far as the authenticity,history,and the documentation of the item being sold to the highest bidder.

motie2

The New York Post.... New York City's unimpeachable newspaper of record. <again, sarcasm>

buflosab

Understood,right on motie.

buflosab

Oh yeah,the Washington Post could be included as well.