The deepest VaPer blend?

mfresa

Guys, I know there are lots of recommendations on good Virginia blends, but I'm looking for one with deep Virginia notes, not the grassy high notes, but the deep sweet notes of maybe an aged Virginia.
I've been smoking the Green Dragon from Country Squire, and it is delicious.  So far, my favorite VaPer.  But is there something out there that is even deeper?  I tried Orlik Golden Sliced and that was all grassy tasting to me.
Thanks for any pointers in this regard.

Corey562

It takes time for the sweetness to come through in ogs. I have a few cans that have well aged and they are just wonderful my buddy opened a new can and it smells like hay.

Corey562

I have been smoking sutliff 1849 and it is a great smoke.

motie2

Dunhill Elizabethan Mixture - More Virginia, less Perique, distinctly not spicy.

It thought it had better Virginias than Navy Rolls or Escudo (still the Gold Standard in VaPers)

Londy3

@motie2, that's discontinued right?

PhilosoPiper

@mfresa I am almost exclusively a Virginia perique smoker. If you like perique you must check out McClelland's 2015. It is INCREDIBLE!

mfresa

Guys, I appreciate the recommendations.  @Corey562 has a good point, but I don't have any old tins.  I did notice that a lot of C&D's tins that are sold as "to be cellared" recommend 10 years of aging.  I'm too old for that (@Corey562 I'd be happy to sample some of yours :-)).
Will definitely chase down the McClelland's and Sutliffe's.  Thanks!!

Corey562

@mfresa you are sure welcome to we will have to get together here soon and enjoy a bowl or 3.

Corey562

I have quite a few blends that meet that 5 to 10 year age thanks to a very good friend.

motie2

@Londy3 -- Yes, but widely available....for now.

mfresa

Thanks guys, I just ordered the McClelland 2015, other orders to follow.

Woodsman

Frog Morton on the Bayeux has nice Perique.
PS Luxury Navy Flake is a great Virginia with some age.
Newminster's Superior Navy Flake is good off the bat, and I'm looking forward to putting some age on it.

mfresa

I think there are a lot of good ones out there, and it is going to take me quite a while to compare them all.  There are so many variations on Virginia blends.

motie2

There are so many pipe tobaccos currently available that it would make anyone's head spin.....

mfresa

Ain't it grand??

motie2

I just hope it doesn't all come crashing down because of government interference.

mfresa

Guys, I just smoked a bowl of Christmas Cheer 2015, and the spice hit me like a ton of bricks.  Is it just me, or am I missing something?  I had to follow with a dose of Green Dragon to get the sweetness of the Virginias.  Didn't detect much sweetness in the CC.

PappyJoe

@mfresa - 

I've smoked Christmas Cheer and Holiday Season for the past 4 or 5 years, always hoping that they would live up to the hype and have always been disappointed. The same with the annual blends from Cornell & Diehl going back to Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Fire (2013) through Corncob Pipe and a button nose (2016). So far none of them have delivered the "Christmas" spirit for me as well as the Peterson's, Rattray's and Kohlhase & Kopp seasonal blends have.
That being said, I did just order a tin of the C&D We Three Kings from smokingpipes.com to give it a try again. It's unclear if this is a "new" blend or just some they've had left over and aging since it was released for 2014.

mfresa

@PappyJoe, did you detect any sweetness in any of the Christmas Cheer blends?  I couldn't get much at all.  Maybe my taste buds are shot.  Regardless, the taste did not match the description on the can or the reviews.

PappyJoe

@mfresa - I mainly got the grassy or citrus of the Virginias more than any of the toppings that were supposed to be in them. I highly recommend the others I mentioned for the winter season blends and with add Rattray's Exotic Orange to the list (if you can find it.)

motie2

€ 22.40 at http://www.cigarworld.de/pfeifentabak/pfeifentabak/rattrays-aromatic-line-exotic-orange-100g-dose-90002790_32860
and http://www.tecon-gmbh.de/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=19&products_id=9095&language=en&osCsid=ffd9bf2185168894cf0cac752709b862
and https://www.pfeifen-behrend.de/shop/Pfeifentabak/Rattrays/Artist-Collection/Rattrays-EXOTIC-ORANGE-100g::1578.html
and https://www.tabakhaus-balster.com/Rattrays-Exotic-Orange-100g-Pfeifentabak/en
but nowhere in the States.

mfresa

@PappyJoe, thanks I will use the links so kindly supplied by @motie2.

mfresa

OMG, they are all in Germany!!

PappyJoe

@mfresa - it's usually only available once or twice a year in the U.S. And it always sells out quickly.
Of course, those companies in Germany seldom ship to the states, which is a shame, there are a couple of other Rattray's blends I would love to try.

mfresa

@PappyJoe, maybe we can get Bremen Pipe Smoker to send us some?

PappyJoe

@mfresa - I've just found out the name and packaging has been changed due to some EU or German regulations. The new name is Exotic Passion and it hasn't made it to the states yet.

mfresa

@PappyJoe, thanks I'll keep my eyes peeled.

motie2

Note that it's "Rattray's Aromatic Line Exotic Passion 100g Dose" at 
http://www.cigarworld.de/pfeifentabak/pfeifentabak/rattrays-aromatic-line-exotic-orange-100g-dose-90002790_32860
even though the graphic is of the Exotic Orange.

PappyJoe

I've been told it's the same blend in slightly different tin and a new name. 

motie2

That agrees with what I dug up.

mfresa

I just tried some McClelland 2015 and it is great stuff!  Highly recommended, and good for cellaring too.