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Smoking the Dottle

I'd like to hear how many of you actually smoke the dottle vs. dump out that last bit of nasty tobacco. I have never been able to smoke that last bit of tobacco without several re-lights and a mouthful of ash. I'd also love to hear your technique if you do typically smoke it. 
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  • JdalenJdalen Newcomer
    Nope. Keep burning my tongue with all the re-lights 
  • Okay good... I've always felt a little wimpy that I couldn't do this. The enjoyment of smoking the pipe significantly diminishes if I re-light too many times. I've likened the dottle to a cigar or cigarette butt. I'd still like to hear from those who DO smoke the dottle. Is it pleasant? Difficult to keep lit?
  • @jfreedy, somebody said if it loses its taste or gets hot, dump it.  Good advice.
  • Once it starts tasting bad I dump it. Especially if I find myself having to continually relight it because of the excess moisture. Many of you may remember our discussion here on how Sherlock Holmes used to dump out his dottle on the mantle throughout the day then fill his pipe with it for his first smoke of the day. Can you imagine what that must have taste like.  
  • Rarely I get a burn to the bottom with good taste all the way down. Sometimes I think it's gone out and relight only to regret it.
  • I guess I might be one of the weird ones here. If I dump out a bowl, and there's quite a bit of unburnt tobacco, I'll add it to my next pipe, unless it's my last pipe for the evening. It's the cheapskate in me that hates the thought of wasting tobacco.
  • http://www.pipes.org/wp-content/uploads/Articles/140_Different_Varieties.text

    Excerpt:

    <<Sherlock Holmes does seem to have settled on the cheapest and strongest tobacco he could find, for everyday smoking at least. And Watson, in the early stages of their acquaintance, did the same, for in _A Study in Scarlet_ Holmes asks if Watson has any objections to strong tobacco, and Watson replies that he always smokes 'ship's' himself.  'Ship's' is corded plug, formed by placing the leaves of an inexpensive tobacco - in Watson's day, quite probably the inferior "Nicotiana rustica", rather than the now universal "N.  tabacum" - on top of one another in a long row, then rolling them up and compressing them, originally with a thin cord, though machinery was used on a commercial scale later. When the resulting roll was a very thin one, the tobacco was called 'pig-tail,' and this form was widely smoked, or, in the days of wooden hulls, when burning tobacco would have been a fire hazard, chewed, by sailors.

    'Ship's' can still be found at specialist tobacconists, but is not recommended for those of a weak constitution. The mere act of lighting the pipe produces a concentrated blast of tar and nicotine at the back of the throat, which makes breathing extremely difficult.  There is no taste as such, only a harsh, rasping sensation, and the fumes and smell are 'acrid', just as Watson describes them in _The Hound of the Baskervilles_. A marvellous line by the underrated Nigel Bruce, in one of his films with Rathbone, sums it up very well: 'Fresh in here. Smells like a pub after closing time.'

    If Holmes' before breakfast pipe consisted, as Watson says in "The Engineer's Thumb", of plugs and dottles from yesterday's smokes, and if he had been smoking 'ship's' yesterday, then it is not surprising that he sometimes left his breakfast - and other meals - untouched.

    Holmes remained faithful to his early love, the strongest possible tobacco, frequently asking Watson to arrange for vast quantities of 'shag' to be sent round.  'Shag' is a generic term for any rough-cut tobacco, but Holmes usually insists on the strongest available.>>

  • drac2485drac2485 Professor
    Like many have said I normally don't smoke the dottle due to it being so wet it won't stay lit.  I am lucky with some of my tobaccos and they smoke all the way down and all that is left is ash, though.  I couldn't imagine collecting the dottle and smoking it later... the relights at the bottom of the pipe are bad enough.
  • http://www.pipes.org/wp-content/uploads/Articles/140_Different_Varieties.text

    Excerpt:

    <<Sherlock Holmes does seem to have settled on the cheapest and strongest tobacco he could find, for everyday smoking at least. And Watson, in the early stages of their acquaintance, did the same, for in _A Study in Scarlet_ Holmes asks if Watson has any objections to strong tobacco, and Watson replies that he always smokes 'ship's' himself.  'Ship's' is corded plug, formed by placing the leaves of an inexpensive tobacco - in Watson's day, quite probably the inferior "Nicotiana rustica", rather than the now universal "N.  tabacum" - on top of one another in a long row, then rolling them up and compressing them, originally with a thin cord, though machinery was used on a commercial scale later. When the resulting roll was a very thin one, the tobacco was called 'pig-tail,' and this form was widely smoked, or, in the days of wooden hulls, when burning tobacco would have been a fire hazard, chewed, by sailors.

    'Ship's' can still be found at specialist tobacconists, but is not recommended for those of a weak constitution. The mere act of lighting the pipe produces a concentrated blast of tar and nicotine at the back of the throat, which makes breathing extremely difficult.  There is no taste as such, only a harsh, rasping sensation, and the fumes and smell are 'acrid', just as Watson describes them in _The Hound of the Baskervilles_. A marvellous line by the underrated Nigel Bruce, in one of his films with Rathbone, sums it up very well: 'Fresh in here. Smells like a pub after closing time.'

    If Holmes' before breakfast pipe consisted, as Watson says in "The Engineer's Thumb", of plugs and dottles from yesterday's smokes, and if he had been smoking 'ship's' yesterday, then it is not surprising that he sometimes left his breakfast - and other meals - untouched.

    Holmes remained faithful to his early love, the strongest possible tobacco, frequently asking Watson to arrange for vast quantities of 'shag' to be sent round.  'Shag' is a generic term for any rough-cut tobacco, but Holmes usually insists on the strongest available.>>

  • @motie2 For what it's worth, I've learned that when I get close to the dottle, I let it almost go out, then I tip the bowl up (maybe 30°?), and relight directing the flame toward the front of the bowl, away from the air hole. The result is that I usually get another 10/15 minutes of smoke without that acrid taste. I also make sure I'm not overzealous as I draw the pipe...
  • Man, I dump it when it gets low, ashy tasting, and hot.  Pipe tobacco just isn't that expensive to suffer the dottle.  Just reload and relight!
  • All this talk about dottles and how they're hard to keep lit reminds me of the old joke:
    "Please do not throw butts in the urinals; it makes them soggy and hard to light...."
    [sorry]
  • @motie2 Now that'ts funny, I don't care who you are...
  • @FatherBriar Your solution is quick, easy and correct. Mine was just an alternative solution. I learned that trick from an old Gunny while in Nam and having to conserve tobacco, not knowing when our next supply would show up. 
  • @KA9FFJ and it's a good alternative.  I was speaking "in an ideal world."  No way Vietnam was an ideal world.  No way at all.  On behalf of a grateful nation...Your service and sacrifice to our country are appreciated.  
  • Yeah, its very rare for me to smoke it down that far, I too dump it when it starts to taste bad.
  • I've always been afraid about burn-outs and tend to stop before I get to the gooey bottom of the bowl.
  • When the tobacco start tasting bad or need to many relights, I stop smoking it. No sense finish a good smoke with bad taste.
  • edited September 2019
    I try to smoke through the dottle to keep the heel of the pipe dry, unless it just does not want to burn.   Sometimes a pipe/tobacco will smoke well right to the bottom, sometimes not.  Crappy taste, more than a couple re-lights, I dump it.
  • I have a hard time getting through the dottle. Lately I've been trying to force my way through it because i'm just trying to get the bottom to have a bit of cake. 
  • @RockyMountainBriar has it right. Sometimes a bowl will smoke all the way to the bottom with a minimum of trouble with sometimes it turns into a swamp. If things are working right I smoke it to the bottom. If it isn't I dump it. Life is too short to worry over a pinch of tobacco. 
  • As a side note, myself, I can’t imagine smoking day old...or more....dottle😖 let alone saving it up in some nasty container.  Heck, mold might even form and make it dangerous to smoke (well, more dangerous than normal).
  • I find English blends smoke dryer than aromatics. Duh.
  • http://www.pipes.org/wp-content/uploads/Articles/140_Different_Varieties.text

    <<If Holmes' before breakfast pipe consisted, as Watson says in "The Engineer's Thumb", of plugs and dottles from yesterday's smokes, and if he had been smoking 'ship's' yesterday, then it is not surprising that he sometimes left his breakfast – and other meals – untouched.>>


  • All I can say is..... eeew.

  • From the book Sherlock Holmes as a Pipe Smoker, by Dr. Thomas Gwinner.--

    <<We all know about the black shag that Holmes smoked, and his (disgusting) habit of drying his dottle for resmoking at a later point......>>
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