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Pipe Missive Nov. 2, 2107
 
Old tobacco vs. new – Last week I had a conversation with one of the two best blenders working today. He told me that in the golden age of pipe tobacco, 50-60”s, the tobacco was harvested by hand. 4-5 passes through the fields to pick the best leaves as ready. Today it is one pass. This was particular important for Oriental used for Latakia.  Then Syria stopped making Latakia because of deforestation and now Cyprus is winding down.
 
He expects within a few years there will be no more Latakia, period. Based on the above there is no way that current production tobaccos can come anywhere close to the those of the golden age, unfortunately

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  • @motie2 Talk like that is a sure-fire way to get me to start smoking Latakia blends. It's a mental thing with me. The moment I learn something is no longer going to be produced (like Twinkies a few years ago) I suddenly find myself not simply craving them ... but take it personal as if someone is depriving me of something I want. Whether that's the case or not. Just the notion that it will no longer be offered makes me feel I owe it to the civilized world to store up and rescue the last remaining samples for posterity sake.

  • Guys, why don't we find out what they put in the smoke to cure the tobacco with, and make it ourselves?
  • Well I will just have to stock up. I have a few ozI aquired from my buddy that has been cellard for 8 or so years but it seems I will have to find a bulk supplier.
  • This may be the same type of scare tactic that got me to own a hundred pounds of aromatic tobacco. (not really 100 pounds - just being a drama queen). I would have thought with all the hurricane damage in the past few years we'd be out of Perique since it's only grown in Louisiana. Yet there doesn't seem to be a shortage of that. At least not yet. 
  • I smoked Latakia and Perique blends in my first pipe life; now, they're not even on my radar.....
  • Saw a recipe last night for "home made" latakia, involved smoking/curing tobacco over small, dried pine branches and red cedar clippings.  The author said it's not an exact match, but pretty close to Cyprian latakia.
  • @ghostsofpompeii - There is the tobacco known as Perique and then there is the process known as perique. What makes the tobacco unique is where it is grown about 35-40 miles north of New Orleans. That area is not very big to begin with so the production has never been that great for good quality Perique tobacco and it almost went extinct because families just stopped growing it.

    The perique which is on the market these days is a blend of Louisiana grown Perique tobacco and burley grown in Kentucky and Canada which is then processed using the perique technique. Companies have been doing this since the 1950s.

    Go to my blog and search for the article on perique. 
  • @PappyJoe Thanks for the info Pappy. I thought the only Perique was grown in Louisiana. Always learning something new.
  • Yeah, Unique Perique!!!!
  • I don't care where it's grown. All I know for sure is after it's processed and before it packaged a donkey pees all over it.
  • One of the things that Latakia and all the other "Orental" tobaccos is the quality of the soil in places like Syria and Turkey which is not as rich as ours and a scarcity of water which will effect the tobacco as well. The Cyprian smoke method will include the use of Cedar which is heavily used in the Levant. It would be interesting to try some different tobaccos and slow smoke them with a little steam to see what we get.
  • Here's one man's experiment on making latakia, with some success:
    http://fairtradetobacco.com/threads/5016-Making-Latakia-at-Home
  • @Woodsman sounds like someone should buy some seeds and try growing tobacco in some dryer states like New Mexico or Arizona. Then the can process it over cypress wood from the U.S.
  • I love both Latakia and Perique blends as well as American aromatics.  Both are used in the Dunhill tobacco blends which I love and have in my rotation.  With the past decision of Dunhill to no longer make and sell their tobaccos, I stocked up all of last year, taking advantage of gathering as many tins and loose tobacco as I could.  I am a man who do not like change but sadly, everything that was common once is now either being discontinued or has already been discontinued.  Just heard today that Kramer's Pipe & Tobacco Shop, is closing down.  It has been around in Beverly Hills, CA since the 1940s and is currently operated by the original owner's daughter and her husband.  This shop was once the place several famous movie makers and movie stars purchased their tobaccos.  Here are some you tube interviews with the owner.  I thought they were interesting.  https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kramers+pipe+&+tobacco+shop

  • Of course (Supposedly) the Syrians used Cedar and dried Camel Dung in their fires, so: Cow Pies or Road Apples?
  • @Woodsman, I think I can simulate it without the cow pie part :-)
  • Historically, dried cow pies and road apples have been used for fires in cultures like the Mongols and Native American tribes on the plains. The key is they have to be completely dried out first. 
  • Some of my friends are starting to raise a few plants in their gardens and are in the process of drying it. I'm waiting to hear the results.
  • So folks are sitting on the porch of the old age home when a farmer passes by on a horse drawn cart.
    "Hey, mister," one of the old folks yells, "What have you got in the wagon?"
    "Horse manure," the farmer answers, "I'm going to spread it on the strawberries."
    The oldster tells the farmer, "You should come eat with us. We use whipped cream."
  • @motie2 - believe it or not, but when I was just a tadpole living in the middle of nowhere Arkansas back around 1960, there was a big field with cows behind the house. Us kids would be sent out there to find dried cow patties from time to time. These cow patties would be thrown on campfires or on a small fire in the yard because the smoke would keep the mosquitos at bay. Sort of like those Pic things they used to sell at drive-in theaters in the 60s. And, no, they didn't stink when burning.
  • @PappyJoe -- On one of the Greek Islands, they burned a small pile of dried used coffee grounds at our harbor side cafe table to keep skeeters at bay.
    A Greek salad in Greece with a side of dried cow patty? Nah, but thank you for sharing the campfire anecdote.  :)  
    BTW, growing up in Ohio in the 1950's, I remember we called the anti-skeeter incense sticks, "punks." 
    They were the height of cool for ten year olds during the summer.


  • Make no mistake about it, dried Camel dung is primarily used because it is readily available, not because it is superior. The premier dung, that has the potential to take Latakia to the next level, would without a shadow of a doubt, be Coyote dung with at least one persimmon seed proudly displayed. The problem with some manufacturers, is they want to take obvious shortcuts, with no consideration for creating a superior product.

    An old supervisor of mine used to favor the saying, "The definition of insanity, is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting a different result. Somehow he knew that the minimalistic approach of the single persimmon seed would be key.

  • Speaking of utilitarian poop, ever had Civet coffee?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbhqxnbaaWU
  • @motie2 I think I'm going to be sick... I need a coffee...
  • jfreedyjfreedy Master
    Here’s a good article from the PipeStud on the current state of Cyprian Latakia. 
    https://www.pipestud.com/is-cyprian-latakia-dead-or-alive/
  • motie2motie2 Master

    A Tale of Two Latakias   PART ONE

    This article was originally written for the now out of print Pipe Friendly Magazine, where it was published sometime in 1998, in Vol. 5 No. 2 of that magazine. A lot has happened since it appeared, including the loss, again, of Syrian Latakia, the subsequent “discovery” of some wonderful, vintage leaf, and that tobaccos early demise in a tragic warehouse blaze. Blends have come and gone, but the world continues to turn. -glp]

    Introduction

    For many years, Syrian Latakia has been virtually unobtainable. We've heard many lament the passing of this noble leaf, often accompanied by a feeling that if Syrian Latakia were still available, everything would suddenly be right in the world of tobacco. But, this delusion is certainly not limited to our Lady Nicotine. In our quest for the Arcadia Mixture of olde, we often seem to lose sight of the fact that things of the past often become more precious once they are no longer available to us. (This is one of the tragedies of art; an artist is rarely fully recognized, financially, for his or her talent until their death assures us that no more work will be produced, thus rendering priceless what was once merely acclaimed - or in some cases, just odd.)

    In our collective mourning over the absence of the sacred Syrian, it becomes easy to take for granted what we do have. What about the fine leaf from Cyprus? With Syrian Latakia once again finding its way into our pipes, perhaps it is a good time to examine briefly the world of Latakia in general. Taking a little closer look at each type will offer us the opportunity to gain a new perspective on both varieties of this wonderfully smoky, noble weed.

    Characteristics of Latakia

    Though the original Latakia of Syria, a necessary ingredient of many classic mixtures of yesteryear, and the now more common Cyprian leaf, share a name and a curing technique, these two tobaccos are quite distinct from one another, each having unique qualities, and very different personalities.

    Syrian Latakia is produced from the long, narrow leaves of the plant known as "shekk-el-bint." After harvesting, the leaf is sun-dried, then hung in barns to be smoked over smoldering fires of local herbs and woods, imparting the characteristic smoky aroma and distinctive flavor. Shekk-el-bint is a strong tobacco, possessing a hefty dose of nicotine which is partially responsible for the robust "body" of the smoke. After the long curing process, the leaf is a deep mahogany/brown color, with a pungent, earthy, slightly sharp, smoky aroma reminiscent of driftwood campfires on the beach. Its very assertive flavor is spicy and somewhat tangy; perhaps one could even consider it tart, and it can easily dominate a blend if used in large measure, prevailing over all but the most robust Virginias. In small amounts, it mingles delicately with its cohorts; in large quantities, it tends to elect itself to high office. Smoked straight, it becomes downright dictatorial - sensory overload occurs quickly, and the tangy aftertaste lingers on the tongue. It can also create spinning rooms for those not accustomed to or tolerant of large doses of nicotine.

    Syrian Latakia's island cousin from across the Mediterranean begins life as as a plant of the the small leafed Smyrna, or Izmir variety. This is a Turkish type tobacco, containing little nicotine, and known for its delicately sweet flavor and excellent burning characteristics. The harvested leaf is air-cured in sheds, and then fumigated in a manner similar that used for Syrian Latakia. The finished product is nearly black, with a deeper, darker aroma than the Syrian counterpart. Its flavor, in comparison, presents less piquancy, and a rounder, less focused smokiness. Its notable sweetness is unlike that of a matured Virginia, or a flavored aromatic, but somewhat more sneaky, coming in to camp under cover of darkness. Though more gentle than Syrian in its nature, Cyprian Latakia can nevertheless be opaque, overwhelming more delicate tobaccos if used in very large measure. A similar sensory overload to that of the Syrian variety occurs if Cyprian is smoked straight, sans Hollywood special effects, though the aftertaste is somewhat more ephemeral.

    Each of these tobaccos provides a distinct and unique color on the blender's palette, and with Syrian Latakia's long absence, many hues in the spectrum of English style mixtures have been all but missing. That the supply line is once again open is truly exciting news for the lover of these sophisticated tobaccos, as it expands and extends the range of possibilities for creating new blends, while simultaneously affording the opportunity to perhaps revive some of the classic blends of the past.

  • motie2motie2 Master

    A Tale of Two Latakias   PART TWO

    Blending with Latakia

    Blending is a balancing act; though guidelines can be invented, there are no hard rules. The strength and depth of each individual tobacco in a blend must be considered, along with the result the blender is seeking. The percentages indicated in the following paragraphs merely serve as a practical point of reference. Every smoker will have an individual reaction to the various components of a recipe, but, in a well executed blend, each ingredient should combine harmoniously, resulting in a blend which is truly more than the sum of the parts.

    If Cyprian Latakia can be compared to a fine Vintage Port, Syrian could be likened to a dry Fino Sherry. For this reason, these two tobaccos must be handled very differently when creating a blend. Latakia of either type can be detected in a mixture in quantities as small as 3%, and by 5%, their presence is unmistakable. Beyond these small portions, they really begin to puff out their feathers.

    When the amount of Cyprian leaf in a blend approaches 10%, its deep, uniquely sweet flavors come alive, and its character develops continually up to a level of about 40-50%, at which point the Latakia will overshadow just about any other tobacco in a blend, resulting in a loss of nuance and complexity, and a rather mono dimensional smoking experience. Certainly, there are blends which contain even more Cyprian Latakia than 50%, and these are enjoyed by many smokers, though more for the "Latakia Experience" than for any allusion at subtlety.

    Because of its sweetness, Cyprian Latakia blends seamlessly, in moderate measures, with Virginias, enhancing the complexity of the mixture, while adding some body and its distinctive, smoky flavor. The combination of Cyprian leaf with oriental tobaccos is perhaps where the greatest care must be employed. Because of their delicacy, these "Turkish" tobaccos are easily overpowered by the more intense flavors of the Latakia. While a delicate hand is rewarded by a blend of sublime subtlety, a heavy touch is akin putting too many habaneros in the salsa; one doesn't soon forget the experience.

    Syrian Latakia's wine-like character begins to fully emerge at about 10% to 12%, increasing the strength of its "voice" until it becomes quite dominant as the quantity approaches 30-35%, where its tanginess can become unpleasant if not mitigated with the careful choice of other leaf. Care must especially be taken when blending with more delicate tobaccos to avoid sensory saturation, where the spice and tart flavors of the Latakia consume much of the smoker's attention, leaving little room for subtlety. An additional consideration is nicotine content; Syrian Latakia is a stronger tobacco, and too much in a blend can create a real "sit-down" smoke.

    The flavor of Syrian Latakia, while intense, is somehow more transparent than that of Cyprian. Used sparingly, It can add new dimensions to an oriental mixture with its sharp, direct smokiness. Care must especially be taken when blending it with Virginias, however. In small amounts, it can add a pleasant brilliance to a darker, matured Virginia, but if too much is used, the result can be discordant. As with any spice, erring on the side of caution is generally the wise approach.

    In Summary

    Latakia is known in Syria as Abourihm, the King of Flavor, and it's easy to see how this sobriquet came about. It's also easy to see that, out of balance, Latakia can become an overbearing despot, imprisoning any flavor who dares to challenge his rule. The blender, acting as advisor to the throne, can bring out the best this reigning monarch has to offer, suggesting that his rule be gentle, fair and just, and that he not place himself too high above his loyal subjects, each of whom contributes something essential to the Kingdom.

    It has been rare, in recent times, that the pipe smoking community has gotten any truly great news, especially concerning tobacco. The arrival of Syrian Latakia to our shores should be met with Champagne toasts and a ribbon cutting ceremony, though we must not forget to honor the reigning sovereign from Cyprus. Whether we prefer one to the other, or, better still, enjoy them both, each for its unique qualities, let us raise our pipes to both thrones with a hearty cheer! Long live the Kings!


  • motie2motie2 Master

    What’s The Deal With Latakia?    From G.L. Pease

    Latakia is one of the most famous pipe tobacco components, but it’s definitely a love-it or hate-it thing. For some people, it’s the elixir of the gods and for others it’s foul, rank and acrid. 

    Firstly, Latakia is not a tobacco; it’s a process. Latakia also comes from two areas: the island of Cyprus and Syria. The leaf that comes from Cyprus starts out as a Oriental varietal called Smyrna. It’s harvested and cured in a structure in which a fire burns using aromatic woods indigenous to the area, mostly of the evergreen type. When it turns black, the tobacco is ready for cutting. Virtually all the Latakia on the market currently comes from Cyprus. The other Latakia, Syrian, is not currently in production. All of the Syrian Latakia being used is from older crops. 

    The difference between the two types is a matter of flavor profiles - Cyprian is bolder and more aromatic, whereas Syrian is smokier and more delicate. But one thing in particular is similar between them and, next to the flavor is the greatest draw - very cool smoking qualities. 

    What’s the appeal of a tobacco that has a wood-smoke flavor and aroma? It mainly comes from the combination of other tobaccos and the percentages used. Mixing Latakia with a blend consisting of, primarily, Virginias will produce a sweet, smokiness that approaches a barbeque flavor.  As an example, you’ll get a hint of this in Hearth & Home Victorian Stroll. If the blend contains a bit of unflavored black Cavendish, the similarity is even more pronounced.

    When Turkish-type varietals become involved (like Smyrna), notes of leather and anise or licorice may come out along with a backbone of mustiness reminiscent of mushrooms. Larry’s Blend is representative of this type of mixture.

    The brighter and more floral types of Orientals (Yenidje, Xanthi, Basma and the like) have, in my opinion, the most dramatic effect upon Latakia, bringing out a vibrant, incense-like aroma with a commanding, but very clean flavor. For varying types of blends of this sort, Hearth & Home Marquee Series has three entries that showcase these properties- Magnum Opus, Black House and Fusilier’s Ration.

    Today, there are an immense number of Latakia-based tobaccos on the market, many of which are among the most popular blends. They include such favorites as most of the Frog Mortons, many of the G.L. Pease line, such as Westminster, Star of the East, English Oriental Supreme, Balkan Sasieni, Balkan Sobranie, Commonwealth Mixture, and these are barely the tip of the iceberg.

    Latakia is referred to as a condimental leaf, as a relatively small amount (less than 10% of a blend) can have an immense impact on the flavor and aroma. That said, a percentage of more than 60% can be found (such as Cornell and Diehl’s Pirate Kake and Hearth & Home Marquee Series Cerberus), and yet the flavor of the other tobaccos can still be noticed.

    Although I can’t prove it, I would conjecture that the cool smoking properties of this black leaf has something to do with the smoke particles that coat the outside of the tobacco acting as a type of insulation. Whether that’s true of not, there’s no question that of all the varietals used in pipe tobacco, nothing is easier on the tongue.

    As for me, I’ve been a fan of Latakia since day one. After trying a Cavendish for my first blend, my father had me try his tobacco, which was a mild Latakia mixture. Right from the beginning, I was enraptured by the smokiness, how easy it was to puff all day. I’m just glad that I found the pleasure of it early on. If you haven’t tried a Latakia blend yet, don’t be afraid of the pouch aroma; give it a shot.


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